People Who’ve Never Run Linux Shouldn’t Write About Linux

Posted by: Rea Maor In: Linux and Unix - Wednesday, December 26th, 2007

The title of this post occurred to me when I read the post Our Linux Dream. Somehow, even though people get the idea that specialized fields require some experience in that field before you can say anything intelligent about it, people hear the word “Linux” for the first time, Google it long enough to see Tux the penguin, and go “OK, I’m qualified now.” To go through that list of Linux-dream items one by one…

1. A website where we can tell if a piece of hardware is compatible with Linux. – We have that. It’s called the Hardware Compatibility List and it’s referred to as “HCL” throughout the Linux Questions site. I’ve gone so far as to use online access from the computer store to check it, with the graphics card I want to buy in hand.

2. Microsoft Office for Linux – Well, see, there’s this thing called “proprietary software”, which is what Microsoft Office is. They have no reason to port MO to Linux , because Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer want Linux to die. And if you can’t produce documents with OpenOffice that are compatible with Windows, then you don’t know what you’re doing with OpenOffice. Mail the document to your Windows-using friends and ask if they can open it. I can see wanting Internet Explorer on Linux (they have done it with Wine) for web developer testing, but wanting to spend several hundred bucks on a whole software suite just to test your .doc format is ludicrous.

3. Great photo/video editing programs for Linux – Linux has that, but if you’re saying this, then your definition of “great” is Photoshop. Heard of Blender? Here’s the first look at the new animated movie “Peach” they’re using Blender to produce. That’s what I call “great”. Note, this isn’t somebody else’s picture stolen and filtered like you’d do in Photoshop, this is drawn from scratch by artists with skill. Keyword: “skill”. But here’s hundreds more graphic tools for Linux. Can we at least read the list, let alone try the programs, but just pronounce the names of them out loud to ourselves one time, before dismissing the existence of them?

4. Legal codecs bundled with all/most distributions. – Well, that isn’t Linux’s fault. Ask the patent holders of those codecs. Did you think the case was where the owners of the codecs were begging to have them distributed for free on open source systems, and the distro distributors were refusing because they’re mean people? And what if I don’t want proprietary software mixed with my distro? The commercial distros are there for a reason, anyway, for people who want proprietary codecs. Or there’s distros like Mint, based on Ubuntu and focused on out-of-the-box multimedia support.

5. A fresh start on the desktop – We have that. Go to XWinman and look at it. AAaaallll those programs are desktops, just like Gnome and KDE. If you check screenshots on other posts on my site, you’ll notice that I use something besides Gnome and KDE. An alternative to KDE and Gnome exists; it’s running on my desktop right now. I’m not making it up.

Thank you for playing, LinuxLoop, but I see we need to do some homework before we get recognized as an expert in tech blogging. The thing is, I wouldn’t mind if it were just one site getting it wrong. But I see this stuff every single week, people insisting that something doesn’t exist just because it didn’t fall out of the sky and bonk them on the head. You could have found anything on that list by typing it into Google, verbatim.

You know, Google, that company that runs Linux?

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36 Responses to “People Who’ve Never Run Linux Shouldn’t Write About Linux”

  1. LinuxLoop Says:

    I am sorry to see you disagree. I think I may have been unclear. I did not say any of this was Linux’s fault. I also did not say any of this would happen in the next million years.

    1. I know about HCL. I have tried to use it. I have also tried to use many, many other sites. These sites may work fine for figuring out if your printer works with Linux, but (could just be bad luck) I have never had any luck trying to make sure that unusual feature of motherboard QWXJU1234-Y works on Linux.

    2. I know multiple people who have tried to use OpenOffice and found that there are compatibility issues that make them use Office again. I know you can run it in Wine and similar stuff, but how great does it sound to say “You can run Office in this program called Wine and most of the features will work”? And if it doesn’t format just right, how do you explain to your boss that you did the report last night running Office under Wine under Linux, and it usually works fine?

    3. I did not say programs do not exist. I have used blender, I have used Gimp, and I have used many photo-organizing programs. Perhaps I am just picky, but I have not found one that I like as much as Picasa and other programs like that. (Yes, I know Picasa is now available for Linux.)

    4. First, I did not say that it was Linux’s fault. Second, I did not say that every single distro has to include them and make them impossible to remove. Third, I am familiar Linux Mint; but to the best of my understanding the codecs in Mint are not technically legal in the US (I am not an intellectual property rights lawyer, so please correct me, if you are sure I am wrong),

    5. I know there is more than GNOME and KDE. I use them as examples because they are well known, just like I use Windows as an example when I am talking about other operating systems. I am not talking about having the menus in different places. I am talking about something that might not even have menus, or icons or buttons or whatever for that matter.

    I am sorry if I was unclear in my post. I think you made a lot of the same points in your post “Reasons Why Linux Sucks.” The real difference is that I presented it as things that I would love to happen as opposed to “Reasons Why Linux Sucks.”

    Feel free to respond to this. One last thing, though. This is what *I* want, not what everyone wants. Thats why I invited people to submit their own lists.

  2. Richard Chapman Says:

    I’m glad I’m not newbee and stumbled onto that “stuff”. You know, one thousand Acer Ferrari laptops can create a lot of ignorance.

  3. Ed Ellingham Says:

    I didn’t quite agree much with the initial blog, but the great thing about the blog posted by LinuxLoop was that it sparked a lot of people making suggestions that I found to be very legit. The intent of my site is to try and make some resources more available to make things easier to find. LinuxLoop’s blog did some good…it got idea’s rolling about things that need work, even though maybe some of the things he listed…we’re kinda silly, but greater things will come as a result. Please email me ideas to put on my site so these resources don’t need to be searched for.


    Ed Ellingham

  4. Avi Says:

    As to point 3: I am a Linux (currently Ubuntu) user for many years now and I also own a Mac. For most of my work (non photo related) I use Linux. The Mac I use for Photoshop, Lightroom, Nikon NX, etc. Nothing in the Linux world comes close to these 3 programs. No, the Gimp doesn’t come close. Some programs start slowly making their way to Linux. For example, LightZone 3.3 (a commercial product) is now in Beta and one can only hope that it will actually see the light of day in the future. There are no good cataloging programs available that nicely work in a Raw (as in Raw digital images) work flow.

  5. JAFO Says:

    1.1*****I have never had any luck trying to make sure that unusual feature of motherboard QWXJU1234-Y works on Linux.****

    What unusual feature are you talking about?????

  6. Vikas Sinha Says:

    What I think is Linux is big bag [expanding] and containing all the stuffs what you need. Just you have to explore it. I am really glad to read this article fight as peoples are fighting with Linux for Linux. And most interesting thing is that “Both are saying same thing, just you need to change your frame of reference”.

  7. Annonymous Says:

    1. HCL is good, but there’s always room for improvement.

    2. Don’t want any M$ crap in my Linux. Improve Open-Office instead.

    3. Almost all popular windows soft wares are being ported into Linux world now a days, if already alternative is not available. Some shitty proprietary companies bad policy can not stop Linux growth.

    4. US has the most fucked up licenses, agreements, policies I’ve ever seen. It’s US citizen’s duty now to remove those crap policies. Start a revolution.

    5. CLI were always there in Linux. If not satisfied there’s window-managers apart from desktop environments.

    Thanks for reading the post.

    Happy New Year

  8. Vance Says:

    “I am talking about something that might not even have menus, or icons or buttons or whatever for that matter.”

    Let’s see, (in no particular order) there’s Ion, ratpoison, SymphonyOS, OLPC’s Sugar, dwm, wmii, QuarkWM, tritium, evilwm, CLFSWM, and Twin for starters. Many of these are still in early stages of development so may be unstable, and some may require a certain skill level. See which ones are already packaged with your distribution and try those out first.

  9. Daeng Bo Says:

    4. Fluendo offers legal codec packs for just about anything imaginable, including WMA/WMV. The whole set is about USD50, I think.

    If you want all these codec in a Linux distro, you’ll have to pay for the distro. Pay for Xandros. Pay for Mandriva. You’ll get codecs.

    5. People often complain about the plethora of desktops more than a dearth. OpenStep and SymphonyOS come to mind as very different. Then there’s the Looking Glass Project. BumpTop is coming, too. Just look around.

  10. John Says:

    Hmmm – I have to disagree just a little bit with LinuxLoop…

    1. Well, I don’t think missing some exotic rare hardware is a argument. That list is to decide wich hardware to use and buy BEFORE you try to install Linux. Why should you buy some exotic, very rare and unsupported hardware and then complain Linux has troubles with it? Just buy hardware that does work – simple enough…

    2. I you HAVE to use MS-Office, there is noting wrong running it under wine. I don’t think it’s an ebarrisment. It’s rather a demonstration how flexibele Linux is. Just try to run a rpm package on Windows, and you know what I mean. But – I can tell you there is nothing in MS-Office that I can’t do in considering my dayly use. There are even some things I can do what MS-Office is not capable to do (like generating pdf files).

    3. You just said it – Picasa is available for Linux, so that complaint is no longer acceptable. And to be precice – I have used Photoshop an I have used Gimp. I don’t see very much difference between those two, but I am no professional graphic designer – just like the other 99,9% of the computer users..

    4. Well – I you have some trouble with legal codecs an formats on Linux in the USA, you can buy it from some website for 25 dollars or something. Then you can be completely legal. The rest of the world can and wil use them freely..

    Now – for everybody else out there…

    I all boils down to one thing…

    A lot of people are complaining open software is not totaly on par (or even an exact copy of) propetairy software. With all those complaints they have forgotten one little thing… All that open source software is totally FREE!!!

    You don’t have to pay hundreds (or even several thousands) of dollars to get MS-Office, Paintshop Pro, Photoshop and 3DSmax on your computer. You get some replacements that are very usable for the normal (and even professional) user, and it wont cost you a dime! So – If you have some very, very deep pockets you can just buy MS-Windows and all the very expensive applications you want to use. Otherwise – don’t pay anything and stop complaining you have a little bit less functionallity.. To put it otherwise – are you really prepared, able and willing to pay hundreds, even thousands of dollars – just to get a few missing feautures?

  11. Phil Says:

    Either everyone around me are EXTREMELY advanced Windows users and I am not (except for development) or everyone just becomes EXTREMELY advanced when they try linux. I can only wonder about about these missing features because they are never named. I have rarely needed Windows for anything since switching.

  12. asim Says:

    ❓ (( then your definition of β€œgreat” is Photoshop. Heard of Blender? ))

    why u compare it with blender ? have u ever heared about 3D Studio Max
    , LightWave , Cinema4D , Maya , SoftImage , ZBrush and more powerful
    3d tools in windows ?

    I can use blender too in my winXP without convert to any bugggy OS like linuxxxx

  13. John Says:

    There is also a Linux version of Maya 2008. If you want to pay $6,995.00 you can get a fully functional piece of professional software working on your favorite distro. A bit cheaper is Houdini for Linux. I just do not want to spend much money, so I am perfectly happy with Blender. It fits my needs perfectly…

    And Linux buggy? Hmmm.. Last time it crashed was.. ehh.. well.. actually.. it never ever crashed on me I am afraid… Sadly I can’t say the same thing about Windows XP. So – if you really want something stable, you have to use Linux and forget about Windows. That are the bare facts…

  14. Karl O. Pinc Says:

    The other place to look for hardware documentation is in Linux itself. The source code contains a Documentation directory. In there you find files, written in english, that document supported hardware. Of course, these files usually won’t talk about “Foozebar Gizmo Version 10,002.6, Professional Edition!” as is written on the outside of the retail box. Instead, you may find the documenters write about the “bitflip 327x” chipset series. It’s up to you to avoid the confusion marketers sow in their ongoing effort to draw people’s attention away from the underlying technology and functionality in the hope that brand loyalty will replace understanding.

  15. Steve A. Says:

    I began using Linux four months ago, and while somethings are different, I do not understand the complaints about Open Office.

    In Open Office 2.3, Save As —-> File Type, you will find sixteen different formats in which to save a document. Including the following:

    Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP
    Microsoft Word 95
    Microsoft Word 6.0

    I’ve never had a problem with sending/receiving/opening/formatting a document to/from someone using Microsoft Word/Office.

  16. Richard Says:

    Windows doesn’t include the codecs to play DVDs out of the box. You may get some software bundled with your PC/motherboard/graphics card, but you may not, and if you don’t you’ll have to buy it.

    So why does Linux get criticised so for this?

  17. machiner Says:

    All I ever hear when people complain about Linux (no matter how ignorant they are, and they are usually very ignorant) is that Linux doesn’t have X. lol.

    People, Linux is a kernel with a few utilities tossed in for convenience. Period. Understand? There are folks that produce Linux distributions, which is the kernel plus all of your desktop software.

    Windows produces an OS — it’s a kernel and some utilities with a DE and some programs tossed in for your convenience. However, you get a little something extra with Windows — you get to be told how to use your computer. You get forced updates, you get shut-off for non-compliance, you get gov’t collusion (and yes — they do crawl on your box), you get incredibly overpriced software complete with bugs you never thought you needed. You get insecure, unreliable, and retarded licensing restrictions. If that’s what you need in order to run your Photoshop then great. Do it and quit your bitching.

    If you make $$$ by using software, then you can complain all you want. However, complain where it’s appropriate and about something appropriate. You have absolutely no call to complain to the world at large because you want to run LInux but cannot. For whatever reaosn. If you can’t be bothered to use another tool to do your work, or learn a thing past college — then terrific. More power to you. BUt when you compare the Windows OS to Linux all you are doing is proclaiming to the world what a total ignorant ass you are.

    Then there ar ethe people that say –Oh, I’m picky, and I need X. Fine. But you cannot denegrate a thing that you don’t understand because it won’t kiss your ass for you. YOu pompous ass. lol. Linux gives you more control over your computer than Windows or Mac — all day. However, you’re either too stupid or too lazy to do it. lol. You go.

    Please, all of you wannabes that think you need to try Linux because your friend says it’s cool — or because you’re sick of Windows, or because you think you’re savy enough — don’t. It’s not at all for you.

    Linux is for thinking people. People that value freedom, don’t like to be told what to do. Linux is for people that can see beyond their own noses. It’s for clever people that can have an idea, walk, and chew gum at the same time. Which, is clearly not most people that complain about LInux.

    The codec thing — are you actually telling me and the world that you won’t install w32codecs, or mplayer or ffmpg because you think that they are illegal? Are you that stupid? Really. Look in the mirror — see the stupid? It’s you. lol.

    Now, I am really sorry to have to tell you that you’re a dogmatic, arrogant, simpleton — but it’s true. DO NOT USE LINUX. It’s not for you. You cannot handle that kind of freedom or scalability. YOu are best using what the rest of the “consumers” do for your own good.

    There was one poster that complained of the bugginess of Linux, I had to laugh aloud at that one. Ya — that’s rich. You must be an aspiring politician or CEO because clearly you have no mind of your own. You go, though — my children will need employees!!

    Computers suck — go outside and get some fresh air — learn to ride a bike you fat bastard and unlatch from your Mother’s teat.

  18. Mike Says:

    “If you have some very, very deep pockets you can just buy MS-Windows and all the very expensive applications you want to use.”
    Or perhaps send the money to a project that is close to where you want it to be so that they can add the missing features that you want. I haven’t met many developers who would turn down a paycheck to work on the project of their choice.

  19. Tyrone Miles Says:

    I always laugh when people complain about hardware support for Linux. People forget that 90% of Windows users buy a PC with Windows on it. So the hardware is tested and the drivers are included! Try taking that same machine, cracking out a copy of Windows XP Pro SP2 and installing it from scratch. Very quickly you will find yourself hunting for your driver disk.

    Also MS office is really no better then open office. The only difference is file formats! If you create docs in non MS formats like RTF or something similar, guess what? They come out 99% the same. It’s when you use MS’s formats that you have an issue. That is not OO’s fault or a fault of Linux. Its funny that you have the same issues on Mac’s but I don’t hear the same outcry. Yes they make a version of MS office for the mac! But guess what, it works no better then OO and if you are a windows Office user then you will have a hell of a time using the mac version!

    Yes I think a fresh start on the Desktop would be nice. At the same time no body is telling MS to make a fresh start. Most people want Windows to stay the same! Changing things pisses normal users off! πŸ™

    My big gripes with Linux right now (One the fault of developers the other not!) Are Wireless drivers and Stability in the GUI. Linux is VERY stable on servers and very reliable on the desktop but in KDE (Which by the way KDE 4 is really bad!) and Gnome there are a lot of bugs. And I think that more focus is being put on catching up to the bells and whistles of Mac and Windows then making sure the included features work 99% of the time.

    Oh and one other gripe! Lack of AD like Directory services on LINUX is killing me. Yes I know there is Fedora DS and Open Ldap etc. But Apple has taken Open Ldap and gotten it to work almost the same as AD. I want it to be easy and support Macs, Windows and Linux. EDirectory can (But not open source and hard to set up), Apple’s Open Directory (Which is based on Open Ldap)Is pretty easy to use, is simple like AD and it supports Samba very well. I don’t care about knowing Ldap, I don’t care about schema’s etc! In AD I can set up a basic directory layout, apply policies etc and not know a thing about Ldap. You can do this in Open Directory also. (Including policies for Windows, Macs for sure and Unix/Linux) I want to be able to do this in Linux. It holds me back from being able to suggest replacing some of our Windows servers with Linux. Or doing a directory layout like you would using Windows server. Simple and out the box.

    Anyway just me ranting. πŸ™‚

  20. Tyrone Miles Says:

    Oh here is some info on what I am talking about. :

    You can see why I am pulling my hair out that this has not been done on Linux. Being that Apple is using Open Ldap and other open source software to do this. πŸ™

  21. Dave W Says:

    As a preface, I run linux exclusively on one laptop, and dual-boot XP and linux on another laptop and my desktop. This isn’t a new situation; I’m fairly well aware of what is and is not availible in the linux world when it comes to software.

    My primary source of income at the moment comes from doing graphics work. There are some darn impressive programs for the Linux graphics designers, but with the exception of a tiny, tiny handful of proprietary commercial programs that have a Linux-native version, most of them do not compare to the commercial equivalent for OSX or some flavor of Windows. Both The Gimp and Blender are impressive offerings, I absolutely do not deny this, and you can get some darn fine results from them. But The Gimp is not Photoshop, and Blender is not Maya or Max. Both are fantastic for hobbyists, and both are usable in a commercial/business context, but generally people aren’t looking to hire people with “3+ years of experience with The Gimp”, and aren’t interested in having one person on the team use Blender while every other modeler is using Maya.*

    P.S.: To the person above who said they had used both Photoshop and Gimp and didn’t notice a difference between them, but admitted they were not a professional graphics designer – yeah. That’s kinda the point. Gimp IS used in professional situations, there are some rather noteworthy examples out there if you look, but it is not the standard, for a reason. There’s a reason artists kick themselves in the financial groin every few years to stay current on their chosen programs while free programs are available – it’s not because they enjoy it, I assure you, and believe it or not, it’s not even because most of them are ignorant of the alternatives.

    P.P.S.: While I take your meaning, Asim, if you use Windows, you already use a “buggy OS”… Those who live in glass houses, and whatnot.

    *Ironic example, I suppose, given that Maya actually has a Linux version.

  22. Robert Krawitz Says:

    GIMP does have some very real limitations for professional work, such as not having support for high bit depth (e. g. 16 bit) images.

    For cataloguing images, I use KPhotoAlbum, which handles RAW images and also large numbers of images quite well.

  23. Steve Says:

    For working with RAW photos, your best bet is Digikam. It supports a 16 bit workflow, and handles tons of cameras and their RAW formats. If you’re looking for a painting/image manipulation program, definitely check out Krita- supports many colorspaces, converting between them, 16 bit (and in some cases 32 bits if the colorspace supports it). It has tons of customizable brushes, and a realistic color mixing scheme.

    Both programs also support color-managed workflows from start to end.

  24. Steve Szmidt Says:

    There are some good views from machiner. I would like to qualify his comments with the fact that the experience of starting to use Linux can vary greatly depending on the Distro and how you approach it. The only other thing I would add is that Linux, just like MAC, does not really try to be a better Windows. They each have different philosophies that are pretty drastically different from each other. Which is what you really should ensure you include in your evaluation, of what to use.

    Having been around since the days before all three, I’ve seen the developments from the first versions to current and Windows never stood out as this awesome platform for me even after a decade of development. I came to a cross road of being unhappy with the whole direction, the ramifications, including what the future promised on Windows and re-evaluated what to use. Both Windows and MAC were buggy, though MAC was more fun, but I hated the single button mouse and how hard it was to get behind the scene to fix things.

    Linux did not have that many options in those days and things were buggy as well. Though it never felt like bugs on the same level as they were quickly identified and fixed.

    But, here’s what made the difference to me.

    Looking at Linux, it opened up the future with promises that looked a whole lot more productive. With Linux I had hope that things would continue to improve. That those programs that were not running right would be fixed properly. Without breaking something else! (Something Windows has perfected in the reverse meaning.)

    I was happy to have the limitations of the Linux desktop in the early years because I felt certain my investment would pay off. Today there is such wealth and depth of applications that as a power user I seldom miss anything. I pay no heed to what is available under Windows as I don’t use it. (I simply refuse to carry what I see as the yoke of Windows and the lock down into corrupted standards and business methods.)

    My choice had nothing to do with emotions, I simply did not want to build a business that relied on Microsoft to do things properly. For me, the ability to integrate anything on any level far surpasses the ton of very nice applications available under Windows.

    The fact that Linux is a very inexpensive platform does not hurt either. But it was never the reason I went with it. It came down to this thing of having the freedom I choose without the threats and liabilities that are routine with Windows.

    If your preferences are different then follow your heart as long as you are true to yourself.

  25. Heavy Says:

    @Tyrone — If you don;t know anything about LDAP, then you will never be more than a weekend hack with AD implimentations. the AD admin MUST know ldap to allow things such as ADAM to work properly, and to allow those Linux/*NIX/MAC’;s to authenticate to that imformation store. I use my SUSE linux machines quite well in an AD forest, mapping users, shares, printers, and ACL’s due to proper planning of the POSIX attributes that allow me to map out my connetions using ldqp, kerberos, and winbind with Samba. IF you do not understand LDEAP, then you are going to have a dog of a time getting Exchange 2007 to ever fold into a AD 2003 tree or forest. that requires schema extentions.

    As far as tough, I find it incredibley easy to manage eDir.

  26. Steve Says:

    asim wrote
    I can use blender too in my winXP without convert to any bugggy OS like

    I see it has been awhile since you used linux… if you ever did. I run a business which has as it’s core the fact that the wonderful products from Redmond are so buggy that they need constant nurse-maiding.

  27. ic Says:

    There are a bunch of ways to make linux work in an AD environment. SuSE and Redhat do it out of the box.

    If not google it, it’s there. Pam, kerberos, nss and a few other packages are all that is needed, and generally installed by default.

  28. Richard Chapman Says:

    @ Tyrone Miles

    “Linux is VERY stable on servers and very reliable on the desktop but in KDE (Which by the way KDE 4 is really bad!)”

    How can you say KDE4 is bad, it hasn’t been released yet. You must be talking about the beta releases of KDE4. Yes, it has been known that in some cases beta releases sometimes have some bugs in them occasionally. Did you actually test a beta version of KDE4, or did your information come from something you read?

  29. John Says:

    I have a TV computer. It runs a script with one line of mencoder to do the hard stuff. The difficult bit was finding the identity of the real cheap innoDV smartTV card without any ROM was: tuner=56 card=3 alsa=1
    It also runs a tiny webserver, so we have the vid streaming on our net.
    It kills our HD recorder which will not let you save to USB stick, does not have a net socket, and has limits on how many movies you can program or save on the HD. Beat that and come back and tell us how poorly we are served by Linux.
    The great feature of Linux is that you are the limit. Remember that, YOU are the limit.

    Your experience may vary, but please try this at home.

  30. John Says:

    For the people complaining Linux is not easy to use on AD..

    Just wait a while.. As some of you maybe know the Samba team has gotten access to all protocols and more Microsoft is using in their servers. Microsoft was ordered by the EU to give full access to all those information for a reasonable price. The price was payed, and the Samba team got the information (that Microsoft has to keep updated as ordered) It’s just a matter of time before the Samba team will include all that knowledge in their product. I don’t think it wont last very long before Linux can be used in a AD environment just as easy as a Windows server/workstation…

    Now for the Gimp etc. thingie. As I said – there will be people needing Photoshop etcetera, but I also said that a overwhelming majority of people do NOT need this programs. They are simply not professional graphic designers and only use the basic tools of Photoshop, leaving about 75% to 80% of the features unused. So – this huge majority can just use a free program like Gimp. No reason to buy an expensive program for features you just do not use.

  31. SirYes Says:

    For those that require Photoshop functionality, check out the “Pixel image editor”. Although it’s not free, it works on a multitude of OS-es and may be a good (and cheaper) replacement:

  32. Dave W Says:

    While pixel has tried really, really hard to /look/ like photoshop, the functionality isn’t all there yet. Maybe in version 2, if it continues development….It also, like Gimp, lacks 8BF plugin support, which is a showstopper for many.

  33. Hawkeyeaz1 Says:

    Either you contribute in some (beneficial) way (ex: money, code, tech support–then you have a right to complain), or you appreciate what you get, or you move on as there is nothing to see. you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

  34. Hawkeyeaz1 Says:

    Clarification: My post above is to those complaining

  35. Jason Says:

    There are plenty of bad articles out there written by ignorant people, which
    is why I decided some time ago not to read them. You can usually tell from the
    summary at a site such as, or whether an
    article is likely to be content-free or worth reading.

    Another problem with these people who try out a Linux distribution and
    criticize it is that they usually experience only the most Mac-like or
    Windows-like aspects of Linux: the graphical desktop and X applications, and
    never come to any understanding of the text-oriented, often command-oriented
    tools which make working with Linux (and Unix-like operating systems in
    general) so convenient and productive for those who know what they are doing.

    For example, LaTeX is better than any word processor; Emacs and Vi are better
    than the sorry excuses for text editors that you’ll find elsewhere, and the
    shell is the best file manager ever written (and much more besides). These are
    only a few illustrations of a general point.

    I don’t have a job that requires me to interoperate with Microsoft
    applications or network protocols, except for reading the occasional MS-Word
    file which is easy enough under Linux. Once MS compatibility is taken out of
    consideration as a non-requirement, which effectively compensates for the
    distortion introduced by the MS monopoly and their “embrace, extend and
    extinguish” strategy, then Linux suddenly becomes a much more attractive
    working environment, due to the advantages noted above and many others that
    Linux users have pointed out elsewhere.

  36. Xaviersx Says:

    Nice thing about free societies is that people can freely write about things to the degrees that they know them, problem is, they may not label that degree of knowledge.

    As for wants or needs, we should use what we want, forget about bashing the things that we won’t or aren’t using, and improve about that we do.

    As for guides, especially for newbies, is how to find out about the ‘definitive guides’ or resources. With some OSes (proprietary), you at least know of their one family of products and the 1st party resources, maybe with pointers to 3rd parties. With a multitude of distros, 1st you have to pick the one that you think fulfills a need or want, take the time to explore it’s knowledge bases, and hopefully pointers to 3rd party resources.

    As someone wrote elsewhere, the problem with Linux isn’t Linux but people’s expectations coming into using it. It’s now Windows, it’s not Mac OS/xxxx, it may not even be your grandma’s Unix. Linux shouldn’t necessarily try to be the other OSes and newbies should come to it with open minds. The more experienced should be mentors of knowledge gained when encountering newbies and not witch hunters of those still using other systems.

    With a little less religion in the OS mix, it becomes much easier to see tools as tools and not as weapons, making moving back and forth between them a luxury of choice and not a choice to avoid or engage in confrontations, IMO.

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